Legal Talk Network's flagship practice management podcast — The Un-Billable Hour with Christopher T. Anderson — features Darrow co-founders Evyatar Ben Artzi and Gila Hayat in a conversation that cuts to the practical question every plaintiff firm is asking: how do you find better cases before your competitors do?
Host Christopher Anderson frames the discussion around the three pillars of a law firm's business: client acquisition, production, and achieving business results for the owners. Darrow, he argues, sits at the intersection of all three — it's not just a technology tool, it's a business development engine that helps firms identify high-value matters before anyone else has the data to see them.
Ben Artzi and Hayat walk through the founding story with the candor that comes from being in a practitioner-focused setting. Ben Artzi describes the frustration of clerking at the Israeli Supreme Court and watching case after case get dismissed while, on the same day, violations were happening everywhere — environmental harm, privacy breaches, consumer fraud — that never reached a desk. Hayat's contribution was recognizing it as an intelligence problem: raw data is everywhere, but it doesn't tell a story on its own. Making it useful requires methodology, legal rationale, and the ability to operate at scale.
The episode also gives Hayat space to discuss her background at Unit 8200 — seven years working on classified AI projects focused on ethical military and police applications — and how that experience directly shaped how Darrow thinks about structuring unstructured data, identifying patterns across disparate sources, and building systems that are explainable, not black boxes. The conversation is practical throughout, covering how data gets "dirty," why training an AI on legal domain knowledge is fundamentally different from general-purpose models, and why firms that start using intelligence tools now will have a structural advantage over those that wait.